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I make a lot of diaper art and fart pics. Oh yeah, and I hate pop music with a burning passion. On the positive side, I write some pretty good stories. On the negative side, I tend to bash Avril Lavigne simply because she's a pop-post-grunge musician.
Why is there so much hate for Avril Lavigne in America? Why does America hate her?
Some people just don’t like some music. Hell, there’s even some music I don’t like. There’s always going to be some music that I don’t like. Avril is no exception. There’s quite a fair hate mob for her in America (especially on Reddit), or at least there used to be. I happen to be part of that hate mob; some people just hate on Lavigne because they wanna jump on the good ol’ bandwagon of US hate boners or accuse every pop artist of sounding the same, even if their styles are unrelated to each other.
I know why more than anyone else does. Many popular 2000s artists (e.g. Nickelback, Creed, Limp Bizkit, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, All-American Rejects, Black Eyed Peas, Britney Spears and Jennifer Lopez) get the same treatment. I would say that it has to do with generic teen bands or post-grunge in general.
It’s clear that she’s an embarrassment to the music industry. Lavigne being an obnoxious douchebag (both in her music and outside of it) and her association with Chad Kroeger of Nickelback, along with her cashing in on the post-grunge trend at the time, never helped matters. It didn’t fire up anybody or make them want to start a mosh pit, given how bland and vanilla it all was. That’s where the songs fail—the amps are too clean; the melodies that come out are sappy, childish and arpeggiated; there’s too much treble, over-compression, delay, reverb and twang; the playing is almost always an octave too high; overdrive is extremely limited and soft; the tracks are heavily layered and sickeningly sterile as opposed to aggressive, heavy, loud, sloppy and distorted; her guitarists prefer hollow-sounding Telecasters over Jaguars or Mustangs.
The notion of the grunge movement and post-grunge killing rock music or just being vaguely disguised pop is a topic of debate among music historians. While grunge had a significant impact on the music industry and popular culture, leading to a shift in mainstream music trends, it’s more accurate to say that post-grunge bands like Spin Doctors and Bush killed rock music. Whereas grunge brought a heavy, stripped-down sound that resonated with many listeners who were looking for authenticity, Lavigne’s brand of post-grunge was only a return to polished 1980s-style production (and saw the return of sugary power pop chords and even sweeter jangly guitars a la R.E.M. or U2), something that Kurt Cobain and co. were clearly against.
Lavigne is not funny. I have always disliked her on how far from hilarious she is. I can’t listen to her music just to laugh at how ridiculous and pathetic everything about her is. She is basically a piece of shit for the most part, thanks to what it all boils down to… she has been on record for telling Nickelback haters that “enough is enough” and “they can’t live a positive life with a negative thought”. There was also this whole drama between her, Lindsay Lohan and Hilary Duff back in the mid-2000s.
Her session musicians are incompetent, if Corky James, Clif Magness, Deryck Whibley, Dr. Luke (yes, THAT Dr. Luke) and Evan Taubenfeld’s skills are anything to go by. As a singer, she’s extremely limited too…
All things considered, there have been better, more diverse “crossover artists” than Lavigne. It just so happens that Lavigne made the big time somewhere in the early 2000s due to her ties to Arista Records and Pink; that her label released Let Go in 2002, shortly after Missundaztood helped Pink break into the mainstream. This was later severed for a variety of reasons.
The explosion of post-grunge into the mainstream (which came at the expense of grunge dying as soon as Soundgarden disbanded), for no apparent reason whatsoever, led to an oversaturation of the market with grunge-inspired pop singers. Record labels rushed to sign and promote these pop post-grunge acts, in addition to the bands, with many imitators emerging. This led to a decline in the quality and authenticity of not only grunge, but mainstream music as a whole.
Why is there so much hate for Avril Lavigne in America? Why does America hate her?
Some people just don’t like some music. Hell, there’s even some music I don’t like. There’s always going to be some music that I don’t like. Avril is no exception. There’s quite a fair hate mob for her in America (especially on Reddit), or at least there used to be. I happen to be part of that hate mob; some people just hate on Lavigne because they wanna jump on the good ol’ bandwagon of US hate boners or accuse every pop artist of sounding the same, even if their styles are unrelated to each other.
I know why more than anyone else does. Many popular 2000s artists (e.g. Nickelback, Creed, Limp Bizkit, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, All-American Rejects, Black Eyed Peas, Britney Spears and Jennifer Lopez) get the same treatment. I would say that it has to do with generic teen bands or post-grunge in general.
It’s clear that she’s an embarrassment to the music industry. Lavigne being an obnoxious douchebag (both in her music and outside of it) and her association with Chad Kroeger of Nickelback, along with her cashing in on the post-grunge trend at the time, never helped matters. It didn’t fire up anybody or make them want to start a mosh pit, given how bland and vanilla it all was. That’s where the songs fail—the amps are too clean; the melodies that come out are sappy, childish and arpeggiated; there’s too much treble, over-compression, delay, reverb and twang; the playing is almost always an octave too high; overdrive is extremely limited and soft; the tracks are heavily layered and sickeningly sterile as opposed to aggressive, heavy, loud, sloppy and distorted; her guitarists prefer hollow-sounding Telecasters over Jaguars or Mustangs.
The notion of the grunge movement and post-grunge killing rock music or just being vaguely disguised pop is a topic of debate among music historians. While grunge had a significant impact on the music industry and popular culture, leading to a shift in mainstream music trends, it’s more accurate to say that post-grunge bands like Spin Doctors and Bush killed rock music. Whereas grunge brought a heavy, stripped-down sound that resonated with many listeners who were looking for authenticity, Lavigne’s brand of post-grunge was only a return to polished 1980s-style production (and saw the return of sugary power pop chords and even sweeter jangly guitars a la R.E.M. or U2), something that Kurt Cobain and co. were clearly against.
Lavigne is not funny. I have always disliked her on how far from hilarious she is. I can’t listen to her music just to laugh at how ridiculous and pathetic everything about her is. She is basically a piece of shit for the most part, thanks to what it all boils down to… she has been on record for telling Nickelback haters that “enough is enough” and “they can’t live a positive life with a negative thought”. There was also this whole drama between her, Lindsay Lohan and Hilary Duff back in the mid-2000s.
Her session musicians are incompetent, if Corky James, Clif Magness, Deryck Whibley, Dr. Luke (yes, THAT Dr. Luke) and Evan Taubenfeld’s skills are anything to go by. As a singer, she’s extremely limited too…
All things considered, there have been better, more diverse “crossover artists” than Lavigne. It just so happens that Lavigne made the big time somewhere in the early 2000s due to her ties to Arista Records and Pink; that her label released Let Go in 2002, shortly after Missundaztood helped Pink break into the mainstream. This was later severed for a variety of reasons.
The explosion of post-grunge into the mainstream (which came at the expense of grunge dying as soon as Soundgarden disbanded), for no apparent reason whatsoever, led to an oversaturation of the market with grunge-inspired pop singers. Record labels rushed to sign and promote these pop post-grunge acts, in addition to the bands, with many imitators emerging. This led to a decline in the quality and authenticity of not only grunge, but mainstream music as a whole.
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